If you’ve seen the movie, Unplanned, or know the story behind it, you are familiar with Abby Johnson. As a former Planned Parenthood clinic director, Abby has insight into the dangerous practices and greedy policies of the abortion industry. She is also acutely aware of the pain, fear, and confusion of many women who seek abortions.

Abby speaks with Center for Arizona Policy President Cathi Herrod today about the misnomer of the term pro-choice, and how most women who seek abortions don’t think they have another choice. Abby challenges our reliance on politicians to abolish abortion, when the real solution requires a heart change.